Guest Book Entries
(Book 2, Page 1)
Kathy - Wednesday, 1/25/06, 2:00 PM
If the City is taking our land for private use ("Parade of Homes") then we, who've lived here need the same upgrades in city water/sewer and electrical power (new fiber optics/new pipes and drain offs) -- It's so not right a private wealthy group have choice land as well as all new utilities. Keep B for public use/enjoyment
From: Buckroe Beach
E-mail: skipperella2000@yahoo.com
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Janet - Friday, 1/20/06, 4:01 PM
Is the current road construction on Pembroke Avenue including underground utilities for future condominiums? Its possible that may be happening in order to make it easier for the City to move forward with the "Master Plan" before the citizens realize what is happening.
From: Buckroe
E-mail: jlbcole@aol.com
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Granny - Wednesday, 1/18/06, 4:02 PM
i think it is wrong to put condoes . didn't they allready put that road iin why ?????
From: H.P.T (HAMPTON)
Say YEAH !! SORRY yes
Linda - Monday, 1/16/06, 7:06 AM
Alright Folks, it seems to me that there is alot of people on both sides of this issue of Buckroe, along with some mud slinging. There are ugly remarks being made, because there is alot of passion being shown from all of us that are just trying to tell City Council, the Planning Commission, and the developers that we do not want condos being put on the 3 "B" blocks. I don't know what the answer is here, but I do know that we need to stand together, not divided on this issue. And all the nasty comments in the world is not going to get the job done that needs to be done here. I think that this thing is going to get ugly before it is all said and done. I think that a citywide vote is going to be the answer to this, once and for all. I don't agree with what the BCA is doing, they obviously don't agree with the Green Space Gals and the 11,000 people who have signed the petitions. I don't know if there is going to be a meeting of the minds on this thing. It is my sincere hope that we save the green space and keep it a public beach. It is said that we might acquire Fort Monroe, ok well if we do, let's see what can be done with the land there, that will make the public happy. I do know one thing, all this hate and discontent that is being exhibited is not going to help anyone. I am asking everyone to go to the Meeting on January 18th, at St. Josephs Church in Buckroe, and make yourselves heard. Let's stand united and save our Green Space.
From: Hampton
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Linda - Monday, 1/16/06, 6:48 AM
Ok, I am going to finish what I was typing. You, the BCA seem to thrive on causing trouble, and destroying land that the rest of us happen to enjoy. Amy Hobbs wants city council to go forward with development because she says that people have been looking at open space for too long. Well, Amy, if you don't like the green space, don't look at it. Bill, you and Amy seem to be in such a hurry to have development, have you and Amy been paid anything for all of this fuss? One has to wonder what you stand to gain, I think that maybe you and she should have to pay the $300,000 for the widening of North First Street, an expense that we, the taxpayers will have to incur. You both want it so bad, why don't you pay the $300,000. It is about time that you bleeding hearts had to pay for something that you are pushing for so much. You people in the BCA are not interested in anything but what will benefit you. You all talk to good game but when it comes down to brass tax, you aren't for the same things that you claim to want, you claimed to be for saving the green space in one breath, and in another, now you are pushing for development. Gee, is that a contradiction. You can't have it both ways here Bill.
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Angela - Sunday, 1/15/06, 3:27 PM
Ladies and Fellow Citizens, At the 11 January 2006 Council meeting I brought before Council the numbers of acres of public parks in Newport News versus the City of Hampton. In Huntington Beach alone, Newport News has 60 acres to the 10 acres we set aside for Buckroe Beach. I asked that the additional 8-10 acres from First Street to Second Street be set aside for a public park and parking for Buckroe Beach. I have asked that Economic Development begin their Bayfront Initiative on Second Street instead of First Street. The City OWNS that acreage. We do NOT own the acreage at Fort Monroe nor do we have any knowledge at this time as to when and if we will! As for the last four initiatives brought to Council on January 9th, that was the Planning Department (staff) and not the members of the appointed Planning Commission. The Planning Commission last vote was to honor the freeze on any more initiatives at least until the first quarter of 2006. We have a Public Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee and to the best of my knowledge, they have not reviewed this plan as a committee. They have not given any input to the Planning Commission or the City Council. The statements of the Green Space Ladies have been on target, truthful and timely. If any member of the community takes issue with their statements they need to face a mirror. At least the Green Space Ladies have not used hatred and spite to make their attempts public. For that alone, I thank you. Good Luck in your endeavors. Best regards, Angela Leary, Member of Hampton City Council. *Voting member of Council in favor of keeping the acreage between First and Second Streets for additional parking/park space. I would also like to neighborhood friendly light commercial along Second Street.
From: Leary
Web Site: aleary@hampton.gov
E-mail: aleary@hampton.gov
Sandra Canepa - Saturday, 1/14/06, 11:43 AM
JP, Hampton has an extraordinarily rare opportunity at hand in Buckroe Beach. As everyone knows, upscale developments may have some value, but they are certainly not unique. A beautifully designed Chesapeake Bay Front Park for Lots B would be, and in the end, that uniqueness is what will continue to bring thousands of families, friends, tourists and visitors to our wonderful resort area just as it has brought them here for generations. Please to not continue to urge Hampton City Council to take that away from us. Help instead to get the issue on the ballot in May 2006 for a city-wide vote and then all Hampton registered voters can have their say on the issue. Thank you.
From: Hampton
E-mail: sandra@buckroebeach.org
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JP - Friday, 1/13/06, 3:03 PM
This post is in regards to Linda¿s comments below; I¿m not quite sure I follow your rational on what the new development of the b lots will bring. In the same sentence you say condos will bring a bad element, high crime and higher property taxes. Higher assessments for those of us who own our homes I can see. As the value of my home increases, I do pay more in taxes. The bad element and crime thing baffles me though. According to this website the condos are for "the wealthy few who can afford them". What bad element are you expecting? Roving gangs of latte wielding yuppies preying on beachgoers of lower socioeconomic classes? There are beautiful condominiums and/or town homes at the Salt Ponds, Mill Point and the new Port Warwick development in Newport News. None of these places experience high crime or a bad element. Believe me if I thought for a minute that the City was planning Section 8 apartments here I would be fighting tooth and nail, but I have looked at the architectural precedents and the conceptual buildings in the master plan and they really look nice. If I was in the market I would be anxiously waiting to buy one.
From: Buckroe
E-mail: galt351@yahoo.com
Say No, you will never get City Council to pass a referendum vote on this issue, no
matter how many times you ask them...Even if you ask nicely.
Bill Ernst - Thursday, 1/12/06, 7:19 PM
I will only address specifics and I¿ll attempt to be brief, but I want to respond to a few of the items that Linda Counts brought up. I am the Gentleman that spoke at council last night that Linda¿s post refers to. Linda states that I insulted the green space gals (GSG) and all of those who signed that petition, I would have to ask HOW? I stated that they have been falsely representing them self¿s to the public, I will stand be that statement. Buckroe Citizens Organization (BCO) President - Trish Ferraro Citizans for the Promotion of Recreational Opportunities (CPRO) President - Sandra Canepa Green Space Preservation Commission (GSPC) Phyllis Flanders Where and when are the meetings for these organizations held? What are there charters? Who are their officers, board members or general members? I asked each of the presidents of these organization the same question and only received one reply stating that she would provide that information when they had it in place, that was nine months ago and I have yet to receive the requested information. I also made the statement at council that the repeated statements made by the GSP were not consistent with information that they have previously published. They do not openly promote their own "Alternate Vision" for the B-lots. I¿ll give you an overview of their ¿Vision¿ 9 parking lots are shown, to include almost the complete coverage of one of the B-lots with parking. Their ¿vision¿ also includes the cut through of First Street to Point Comfort Ave.Please see their vision on this website. also, in the document produced by the GSG called ¿Buckroe Master Plan: the Truth¿, states: ¿The Master Plan calls for parking to be wrapped around the remaining park, thus reducing the size of the remaining green space, and cluttering the visual beauty of the area.¿ How is their ¿Alternate Vision¿ different if it proposes 9 different parking lots that are actually on the green space they claim to be protecting? This plan also includes the removal of the Bark Park and puting 7 businesses on "The GreenSpace" It is my opinion that the very planed and calculated wording being used has a major impact and it is getting the desired result. If I were uninformed about what is happening in the Buckroe Beach area and I was approached with the following question; ¿Do you want condos on the beach in Buckroe¿ or Do you want to stop the sale of the citizen-owned areas that the City wants to sell to developers for condos¿ I could see the reasoning, and might even agree. But If I was asked if I support the City of Hampton plan to acquire blighted properties and to build single and multi-family housing on property that previously purchased? I would support that too¿. So, what is the truth? The truth for each person is different, you have your opinion and I have mine. We both can agree to that. If you feel that I have insulted the GSG or the people that have signed the please be very specific and I will attempt to clarify anything I have said, or will stand corrected right here.
From: Buckroe Beach
E-mail: Luvjava@cox.net
Linda Counts - Thursday, 1/12/06, 11:32 AM
Mayor Kearney said that there was not enough money to put condos at Fort Monroe, and Buckroe. Gee, that should have been a no brainer. Besides that, the city council is working on the premise that we are going to acquire Fort Monroe, which is a big "what if", well I'm sorry, we can't live on what if, we can only live on what is, and what we are gong to have tomorrow. We the people who live in Hampton, in the Buckroe Beach area need to pull together and tell the city council once and for all that we did not, do not and will not tolerate the development of condos on the 3 "B" blocks of green space. That is our public beach, it has been a public area for years and should remain that way. I just don't know why this is such a hard concept for the city council to understand. Angela Leary seems to be the only one that cares about the public, cares about what we want as a whole. I for one, think it should go to a city vote and I hope that everyone will get out and vote on this, and vote "NO" to the development of condos. City Council needs to realize that we, the taxpayers pay their salaries, that they work for us, and if they are not interested in doing the job that we put them in office to do, then it is time for elect a new council who will do the job, who will work for the public. It is obvious that Mayor Kearney, Charlie Sapp, and Randy Gilliland are not interested in what we want as a public. All of us who have signed those petitions, have a voice, and we deserve to be heard. The gentleman who got up and spoke in front of the council last night, insulted the green space gals and every one of us as a voice on those petitions. We do not want condos, it would only bring a bad element to Buckroe which council is supposed to be working to get rid of, it will also bring high crime which we don't want to see happen. The building of condos will also bring higher property taxes, and if he had thought before he spoke, he would have realized this. I am all for single family homes, but NOT on our public beach. Let the council take and develop some of the blighted areas that they are cleaning up and put the single family homes on that land. DUH!!!! hello.....am I the only one who is thinking here. Wake up folks, don't let the council snow you into thinking that this is a good thing, don't the the Buckroe Civic Association snow you into thinking that the development is a good thing. The Civic Association has not and will not have the best interest of the public in mind. They are thinking about what is good for themselves and what they can get out of all of this. I for one, hope that the Green Space Gals stay the course and keep fighting. You gals are doing a great job, and you have my support.
From: Hampton
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Linda - Thursday, 1/12/06, 10:29 AM
I think that this Buckroe Beach matter is going to come down to a city wide vote, which is what we need to be heard on this. City Council seems to be ignoring what we want, and does not seem to care about what we have been and continue to tell them on this matter. There are developers that stand to make alot of money on this, even though Randy Gilliland has denied it. Charlie Sapp is pushing this issue along with the issue of us maybe getting Fort Monroe because he is retired military.
From: Hampton
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Barbara - Sunday, 1/8/06, 6:58 PM
I wholeheartedly support the efforts to retain Lots B at Buckroe Beach as public "green" space for all to enjoy. Too much of the beautiful parts of Hampton are only enjoyed by those who can afford to build expensive homes and live in gated communities. My family and I use the Bark Park regularly, our dogs can run and have such a good time, I cannot imagine not having that wonderful option open to us. And the Bark Park is also a great way to get owners to license (another way to get money for the city) and neuter their animals, creating more responisble pet ownership. Now that Fort Monroe will close, developers are already chomping at the bit to develop it into yet another wealthy enclave. It's true, Hampton needs to develop a better tax base. We need to revitalize and rejuvenate the retail area so that it on a par with what Newport News has done with the area surrounding Patrick Henry Mall. I am tired of spending my money in Newport News but the lack of stores and retail shops in Hampton has left me no choice. The new restaurants and bars are fine, but there is nowhere to shop that can compare to our neighbors. Let's start there and see what happens.
From: Hampton
E-mail: Barb13154@cox.net
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Sandra Canepa - Friday, 1/6/06, 5:58 PM
I ran out of space in my note next under. Following is my last paragraph to Steve. Thank you for noticing something we have always said, i.e., Lots B can be developed into a wonderful place for everyone, for the public, but selling public property for condominiums for just a few private owners, only exasperates an ongoing problem here in Hampton, the selling out to investors and developers at the expense of the majority of Hampton residents and taxpayers. Steve, we have taken up enough space on this guest book and neither of us is paying for it. Please address any future comments for discussion to me at sandra@buckroebeach.org. Thank you.
From: Hampton
E-mail: sandra@buckroebeach.org.
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Sandra Canepa - Friday, 1/6/06, 5:53 PM
Steve, the venom you directed at me below because I own a cottage on Buckroe Beach "kind of" takes me aback. I grew up "poor" and cannot explain what Buckroe Beach meant to me then. I used to ride my bike from Stuart Gardens to Buckroe Beach almost every weekend and being there gave me a sense of belonging and connecting with everyone else, no matter their staus or income. Sure, I now have a place on the beach and do not need to ride my bike there now for easy access or the views of the Chesapeake Bay, but my joining up with the Green Space Gals was because I want to keep Buckroe Beach for others who today may not have what I did not have growing up and yet like everyone else deserves a nice and easy way to access the Chesapeake Bay. Buckroe Beach was it for me then and it is still it for the thousands who still go there; therefore, it is ugly and nasty to sell that last little bit of beautiful public property along the Chesapeake Bay to private developers. Since you seem so fixated on my owning a cottage at Buckroe Beach, I need to tell you it has been in my family since the early 60's. Our cottage and the lots and cottages around us have been private property since the 1930's and maybe even before the 30's. Our cottages have always sat on private property, even before the beach property of Bayshore, which the black population of Hampton enjoyed, became a private gated community, off limits to the public; before the Morning View and Cantamar codominiums were built between the Chesapeake Bay and North First Street blocking easy access and wonderful views for the public of the Chesapeake Bay; before the homes and condominiums were built in the private gated community of the Salt Ponds again blocking views and easy access to a public beach; and before the homes were built between Beach Road and the Grandview Fishing Pier, again blocking easy access and views of the Chesapeake Bay. Steve, petition signers are not fighting for anything more than what they, the Hampton taxpayers, own. They are fighting to preserve Lots B, property that is owned by all of them, all 147,000 thousand Hampton residents, to include you and your family. Lots B provide the easy access and wonderful views of the Chesapeake Bay as well as the waterfront many Hampton residents cannot live on but certainly need to continue coming to for fun and relaxation, and with the additions of perhaps a nice restaurant, nice restrooms, shaded walkways, fields for pick-up games, coffee and ice cream shops, miniture putt- putt, etc.....what a wonderful attraction it could be for our city, for all of us. Lots B have always been a place of gathering for families, friends, visitors, and tourists alike. What is so wrong about our trying to keep it that way for our now and future generations? The petition is not asking people to stop condominiums from being built on privately owned property such as Chesapeake Landing, Morning View, Cantamar, the area of my cottage, Salt Ponds, Grandview.....the petition is asking the city to stop the building of condominiums on public property, OUR property, the only property left in Hampton along the Chesapeake Bay that is easily accessable and that provides wonderful views to all of its property owners and their guests, i.e, Hampton residents and tourists and visitors. There is not another spot like it left in Hampton on the Chesapeake Bay. Because all other property in Hampton along the Chesapeake Bay is private now either since before the l930's right through to the more recently developed Grandview, Hampton residents are only afforded easy access and wonderful views of our magnificent Chesapeake Bay via Buckroe Beach and Lots B. For this reason, they must be preserved and protected for our now and future generations. Thank you for noticing something
From: Hampton
E-mail: sandra@buckroebeach.org
Say Yes, one is needed because City Council keeps hedging on the issue.
Steve Woodall - Friday, 1/6/06, 11:54 AM
This is in response to Sandra's comments to everyone. And in response to her comments to me. Sandra, I did not use any inappropriate language in my post. Nor did I resort to name calling like you Green Space Gals do. I simply stated facts. If you want to read an UGLY entry, look at the one that Linda Counts left for me, or the response you left for Anne on 10/20/05. Those are UGLY. You dumped my entry just because I pointed out the fact that you are misleading the signers of the petition. Your reaction was VERY predictable. Again I ask you: How interesting would it be if all of those signers knew that you own a house on the beach on North First Street? Isn¿t that the exact same type of development that you are fighting against? (Buildings blocking our access and view of the Beach and Bay) If you really aim to be fair and honest, quit bashing everyone who voices an opinion you don¿t agree with. I am not necessarily in favor of Condos on that space, but some type of development and investment is needed here to take this area back from the drunks, bums and crack heads. If you look at the plans, they plan to build more than just condos. They plan on businesses, storefronts and restaurants to go on the ground floor. That land has sat there un-used since the park was torn down. No one ever cared to do anything for that property before. Why weren¿t all of you fighting to make those lots a park before? Why were they allowed to get to the shape that they are in now? Where have all of you been for the last 20 years? Why haven¿t you done anything before now? Sandra, people in glass houses should not throw stones!! I think it is incredibly hypocritical of you to fight against development on a beach that you own a house on!! Is it O.K. for some of you to own houses on the beach, but not others? Where is the logic? I will give credit where it is due, you all have finally put up some ideas for use of the B lots instead of just complaints about the current plans. That is a step in the right direction.
From: Buckroe
Say NO NO NO
E.M.W. - Thursday, 1/5/06, 11:48 AM
I want a city-wide vote in May 2006 on whether "Lots B" should be a city park for our now and future generations instead of high density, high cost, residential housing.
From: Hampton,VA
E-mail: evileva3@yahoo.com
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Eva Winters - Thursday, 1/5/06, 11:45 AM
I want a city-wide vote in May 2006 on whether "Lots B" should be a city park for our now and future generations instead of high density, high cost, residential housing.
From: Hampton,VA
Web Site: Eva Winters
E-mail: evileva3@yahoo.com
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Joe Lupton - Sunday, 12/25/05, 8:01 PM
The City of Hampton's City Council seems to be Condo Crazy. If they get their way, Hampton will just be a Condo Town with no charm, individuality, or draw for visitors from outside of he area. The Buckrow Beach area has already been allowed to become a condo row along the beach front. You can't even see the water except between the condos. How charmning! When people from other areas talk about "going to the beach" for the weekend, they surely are not thinking about coming down to look at the condo's. They want to enjoy the view, the sand and the water. This needs to be preserved for our future generations. Vote YES for a city-wide vote on this in 2006. JOe
From: Hampton, VA
E-mail: jluptonatp@cox.net
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JP - Thursday, 12/15/05, 6:46 PM
I choose to leave out my name to protect my family, not because I'm afraid of any flack I'll personally take.
From: Buckroe
Web Site: --
E-mail: --
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Sandra Canepa - Thursday, 12/15/05, 5:27 PM
With reference to JP's note next under, it always puzzles me why people, like JP, who use this Guest Book to express their desire for residential housing on Lots B do not identify themselves by name or leave an e-mail address where they can be reached for further discussion. Thank goodness people like JP are a small minority within the City of Hampton. Perhaps they are afraid to identify themselves for fear they will catch a lot of flack from the vast majority of Hampton residents, family members, friends, and neighbors who want Lots B saved as a world-class professionally designed park for our now and future generations. I might point out there is no comparison between the Hardy Lane situation and the Bayfront Initiative. Hardy Lane concerns a small piece of private property while Lots B concern a very special and unique 10-acres of public property, owned by all Hampton residents, which they have used for over 100 years for fun and relaxation. This is something all Hampton residents will lose forever if Lots B are "compromised" for any type of residential development. The 10-acres of Lots B should be a professionally designed Chesapeake Bay Front Park with shaded benches and walkways; open green fields for flying kites, playing pick-up games, and running; and ample parking for everyone. It should be interspersed with revenue-producing attractions such as a miniature golf course, a nice restaurant, coffee and ice cream shops, beach sport equipment rentals, nice concessions booths, more shaded gazebos to better accommodate the large gatherings, etc. Upscale developments may have some value but they are not unique. However, each well-designed park is, as witness Central Park, and in the end, uniqueness is what makes a city thrive.
From: Hampton
E-mail: sandra@buckroebeach.org
Say Yes, the 137,000 Hampton residents who have not had a chance to sign the petition need to have their opinions and voices heard....a city-wide vote is the only way all voices are going to be heard by Council who needs to hear from them.
JP - Thursday, 12/15/05, 3:47 PM
Kudos to Phyllis Flanders for her appearance with Amy Hobbs at last nights Council Meeting, it was truly heartwarming. Without compromise you achieve nothing, with compromise each party gives and takes a little. Last night we saw that the folks along Hardy Lane were willing to compromise, and were able to get the developers to reduce the number of housing units to be built. This can work in Buckroe as well if folks are willing to work together.
From: Buckroe
Web Site: ---
E-mail: ---
Say No, A mix of well designed housing and green space can be achieved with
compromise.
Pete Hazy - Tuesday, 12/13/05, 8:24 AM
This green space belongs to the residents of Hampton and is a priveledge for Non-Hampton visitors. Improve the park. DO NOT TAKE IT AWAY !!!!!
From: Hampton, formerly Pennsylvania
E-mail: pete.hazy@hamptonu.edu
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Joyce C Hoover - Monday, 12/12/05, 2:02 PM
I can't imagine not caring about this green space. Once it is sold off it is gone forever. I am so thankful for the support that has been given in pertecting this land. Sincerely Joyce C. Hoover and family
From: 152 N. First St. Hampton 23664
E-mail: jcthnhmpt@aol.com
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Linda Counts - Sunday, 12/11/05, 3:22 PM
Well it is great to see the guest book back up and running. I applaud the Green Space ladies for all the hard work that they have been doing, and continue to do for all of us who have signed the petitions to say "NO" to the condos being built on the 3 "B" lots. But the work is not over yet, there is still more work to be done, more voices that need to be heard from to save our precious green space for the generations to come, to be able to enjoy. Folks, there is a meeting on December 14th at 7:30pm at city hall, and the more people that can be there, the better. We all need to stand up, yet again before city council and say "NO". Quite frankly, I don't understand why we need to keep repeating ourselves, maybe they think that all of us folks who signed the petitions will be quiet, and that they will win. Well it is time for all of us to stand together, and show the city council, and the developers that we are not willing to back down on this issue. If Charlie Sapp wants to hear from the 137,00 not yet heard from, tell him to go door to door and see what kind of response that he gets. He had made the comment at one of the council meetings that he was willing to hear what the public had to say, but that the development was still going to go through. Well I'm sorry, but I am not happy with that kind of smug attitude. That land belongs to the public and needs to stay that way. So lets all stand together on this, so that we can win this fight. It is all fine and good to say that there needs to be a vote taken, which I agree, but I have a question here. If a vote gets taken, will it be from the ones not yet heard from, or will this be a city wide vote. If someone can let me know about this, I would greatly appreciate it.....Buckroe Beach is ours, let's keep it that way......
From: Hampton
Say YES
Sandra Canepa - Sunday, 12/11/05, 1:48 PM
After City Council received 9,312 signatures on Nov 9 from Hampton residents on the petition to say "NO" to residential development on "Lots B", Vice Mayor Joe Spencer, Councilman Rhet Tignor and Councilwoman Angela Leary commented they could not ignore 9,000 signatures. Vice Mayor Spencer said one has to listen , and if you don't listen you never get anywhere. And Councilman Charles Sapp expressed his interest in hearing from the remaining 136,000 Hampton residents who had not yet signed the petition. I cheer Mr. Joe Spencer, Mr. Tignor and Mrs. Leary for listening to Hampton residents, and I applaud Mr. Sapp for wanting to hear the opinion from everyone in Hampton on the green space issue, i.e., Lots B. Their comments are excellent and prove it is now time to put the Bay Front Initiative of the Buckroe Master Plan out there for a city-wide vote. While I doubt Council will ever hear from the babies, children and those under 18 who are part of the remaining 136,000 Hampton citizens who did not sign the petition, a city-wide vote, for eligible voters, is the only way, the only fair way, Mr. Sapp and all other City Council members are going to hear whether Hampton residents want a professionally designed world-class city park or want residential development on the former Buckroe Beach Amusement Park sites (Lots B). I encourage all Hampton residents to make sure you are a registered voter and let your voice, your vote, on this issue be heard in May 2006. Thank you.
From: Hampton
E-mail: canepasa@cox.net
