Guest Book Entries
(Book 3, Page 3)
Total Entries for all three pages: 286
Slim Shady Sunday, 8/27/06, 6:12 AM
There were plenty of sex offenders at Todd's cottages. And I think that Ms. Pie is wrong about nobody being arrested from that area. There were more crack heads than you could shake a stick at in that place. Could it be that Minister Pie was actually selling narcotics at that place? Maybe that is why she is putting on this big front about this concern for the people. i think that she has an economic issue here and that she is already off of Santa's list and trying to put people on satan's list. Shame on you Pie. You are truly evil.
Louis Sunday, 8/27/06, 5:35 AM
I would be all for a brothel. I used to stop in and see Ms. Sweetie Pie at her cottage before it was torn down. Sure was worth the trip. In fact my day was never complete til I had my slice of pie! I miss those days and i think thousands of others in Tidewater do as well. Lets all work together and make Buckroe a plce thqat the public will enjoy. Hourly hotel rooms need to be in the mix. Help put Temperance back to work!!!!!
Crystal Sunday, 8/27/06, 4:58 AM
Linda thank you for a very relevant question. Perhaps this will end the non-stop rant of temperance pie the wannabe television minister. As for the hotel the city wants it to go away. They are hoping that it will be sold by the owner. They hope that it will be used in a fashion that will compliment the nightclub that they intend to build on the fishing pier. Maybe something like a brothel that would put people like Temperance Pie back to work.
Linda Saturday, 8/26/06, 9:11 PM
Hey Folks, Was wondering if anyone can tell me where the Sans Souci Hotel/Apartments enters into the Buckroe Master Plan? Has it been, or will it be bought by the city for the purpose of eminent domain, or will it remain where it is?
From: Buckroe
Temperance Pie Saturday, 8/26/06, 7:11 PM
Ahhh... a coward emerges. Calling someone names is naughty but calling them a liar and doing so anonymously can get you kicked off of Santa's list permanently. SOMEONE needs to think about what a cowardly act that is - sort of akin to a hit and run with a car... remember...
Someone Saturday, 8/26/06, 3:23 PM
Crystal, you better double check that police report...Ms Pie is known for one who does not always tell the truth.
Temperance Pie Saturday, 8/26/06, 12:00 PM
Why Crystal I do believe you must have been the former owner of Todd's Cottages to have such in- depth knowledge of them. Sexual Predators list - no more listed for Buckroe than any other zipcode in the city percapita. But, what in the world are you doing perusing that list - looking for a boyfriend??? Delusional - not me... after a call to the police I found there have been no reports of anyone accosted in the public park by anyone living in Todd's Cottages for at least the past ten years - that is as far back as my research went. If the city has adequate low income housing then why do we still have homeless shelters in the city? You may continue to rant - but my tone is one of peace and love and my thoughts are rational and based on fact. You can call all the names you want, but, it doesn't change the fact that in your postings you are showing signs of hatred not love. Even though you don't want to succumb to the pressure of overwhelming evidence that you are wrong - it's okay - keep casting those aspersions in any and all directions - God still loves you and so do I.
Crystal Saturday, 8/26/06, 11:17 AM
Temperance you are the one that needs to seek anger management. Your delusional state of mind makes me a bit concerned that you may do harm to yourself or someone else. First of all those buildings were unsafe and beyond repair and that is a fact. Secondly, many dangerous, shady people were living in some of those houses which just happened to be adjacent to a public park. I wonder if you ever checked the website that shows how many sexual predators lived in that area. The pie might not be so temperant had it done some research. Thirdly, you not I brought riff raff to the table so obviously it has been coming out of your mouth. Lastly, you would be wise to donate some of your time to helping those people that you are concerned with. The city has housing opportunities available that are far better than those that they were living in before. Maybe you could channel some of your pent up hostilities into positive action. Remember Boss Ross loves you if you vote for him!
Temperance Pie Saturday, 8/26/06, 10:55 AM
You must truly be one of Jesus' children to have been given the gift of insight to be able to judge people to be good or bad as you just did. I must say your compassion regarding the work of these two women (who remind me of Ruth and Naomi in the Bible) is underwhelming. Sure, lets send them to another job where it takes two paychecks to afford housing that costs $165 a week and that housing is no longer available. And, I'm so glad you are working with the developers who have the big plans for the ground where Todd's Cottages were because that's what they kept saying - those buildings have to go - not, let's hold the owner responsible for repairs and upkeep. As for public safety - yeah those buildings were leaving their foundations and mugging people at night... You may talk a good game Crystal but I'll bet you have used the words riff raff on more than one occasion to describe some of the people who live at Buckroe. It is about class bigotry and judgment, but, you keep right on doing as you're doing because no matter what, God loves you too. Remember the meek shall inherit the earth... I wonder if one of the developers is named Meek? Anger management Crystal... seek help.
Crystal Saturday, 8/26/06, 9:34 AM
Well Ms. Pie in the sky holier than thou. Sure there were a few good people at Todd's cottages, however, there were also alot of bad ones. The case here is not about class bigotry it is about public safety. Those buildings needed to go and you know that to be the case. As for the women losing their jobs that is sad, but just about every fast food place on Mercury has help wanted signs on their doors. Just because the world is your oyster doesn't mean you get to throw shells at other people. So tommorrow at church say a little prayer for yourself so that you may find some sense of humility, and maybe you will find a way to heal your condecending attitude!
Temperance Pie Saturday, 8/26/06, 8:01 AM
Well you have certainly made your class bigotry CRYSTAL clear in your post. How sad that you have no compassion for the good, hardworking people that were made to move with little notice. If you want to know how hard it has been for the people who had to leave Todd's Cottages talk to the woman and her mother who both work at Wendy's at Coliseum Mall who had to move. And now, they are losing their jobs too as a result of the mall renovations. Your mask fell off and your ugliness is showing. But, God still loves you and will work with you to heal your anger so you can learn to reach out to ohers with love.
LaJuan Insley Saturday, 8/26/06, 7:56 AM
I was raised in Hampton until my High School years. I visited Buckroe Beach an many of time growing up. The Ferris wheel, Carosel are in my fondest memories. I love the play ground there and have taken my grandchildren there many times. I have even taken them to the Carosel at the Air and Space Museum and rode it over and over. Please, Please keep this area open for the public.
From: Poquoson, Virginia
Email: hpctw@prodigy.net
Crystal Saturday, 8/26/06, 6:58 AM
Well, well Ms. Pie! That was cute! I'm glad to see that you still have an interest in Buckroe even though your old room at Todd's Cottages is no longer around! I still see you hanging around the phone booth at the 7-11. Hope business is good!
Temperance Pie Friday, 8/25/06, 2:51 PM
Gosh Crystal! The name I had in mind for you was... psychic! I guess you are the one with your mind in the gutter! I hope you find a good anger management counselor soon. Hey webmaster! She called me a name!!!!
Louis Friday, 8/25/06, 8:21 AM
Manfred I am not against anyone making a living, but I think it should be an honest living. We are all to familiar with your actions down at the Salt Ponds while you were working for that developer. You and Terry ONeil created that private public beach to ensure that the riff raff would stay out of that area. All the while you got the city (including the current mayor) to bite off on having to foot all the bills. As far as I am concerned we have all been taken for a ride by people like you before and we cannot even trust our own elected officials as evidenced by current and past real estate dealings. You know you would love to make that beach private just like you did down the street for your friend Terry O'Neil.
Manfred Perkins Friday, 8/25/06, 7:35 AM
I do not know you Crystal, so you must be mistaking me for someone else with a much lower moral standard, as for Louis, I am not a big cheese real estate developer, but so what if I was? Are developers not entitled to earn a living? This country was founded on capitalism. As long as they obey the laws, what is wrong with buying properties from willing parties and developing them? Sounds like you may be jealous of anyone who makes more than you. Perhaps you live an unfulfilled life of mediocrity, or perhaps you are a communist and don¿t believe in the American way, is that it comrade?
Crystal Friday, 8/25/06, 7:33 AM
Ms. Pie I don't know what gutter your mind currently resides in, but I was talking about virtues. I think the correct way for you to sign in here is Ms. Cow Pie!
Temperance Pie Thursday, 8/24/06, 4:01 PM
Crystal writes:I went out with Manfred Perkins once and let me tell you there is nothing big about him at all! Maybe he and Boss Ross want to make themselves feel big by pushing people around. You went out with him once? And, as a result of going out with him once, you know all of his sizes? There is a name for women like you - but namecalling is not allowed here.
Crystal Thursday, 8/24/06, 1:57 PM
I went out with Manfred Perkins once and let me tell you there is nothing big about him at all! Maybe he and Boss Ross want to make themselves feel big by pushing people around.
Hardy Thursday, 8/24/06, 12:20 PM
I've told you once I've told you twice, we are building condos whether you are naughty or nice. You see the b-lots are out of your reach, so get ready for our new private public beach! If you don't think that what I say is for real, you probably don't know the city's deal! Understand friends what you fail to see, is that Boss Ross has four votes and you have but three!
Louis Thursday, 8/24/06, 11:21 AM
Go ahead Tony!!!! I think Manfred should run away with his pathetic little tail between his legs! Maybe he and the boss can ask NASA if they could go over there and build rockets rather trying to be big cheese real estate developers! Who knows maybe that way they would do less damage everybody.
Tony Thursday, 8/24/06, 10:51 AM
Manfred you poor misguided soul. Heavan have mercy on your pitiful, meaningless existence. First of all you should never and I repeat never insinuate that the King does not belong in the Lourve. The French, like any good red blooded American, hold a special place in their hearts for this man of gratness. For you to make a mockery of him is an insult of international proportion. Secondly, I know who you are and you are indeed part of the group that is trying to develop condos along with that nasty fellow Ned Light. I can see right through your nonsense, and know that you are part of the Jim Eason/boss Ross posse. You and the Boss are caught up in the real estate tax fever to produce more revenue to pay for all the wasted expense of this failed administration. You all are usurping the pride and money of the citizenry of Hampton by chasing ridiculous pipe dreams. I think it is brilliant to wait until after the property boom to consider this project because that way you can dump all of this new housing on a flat market. With any luck the builders will go bust and you can use it as section 8 stuff. And the part about paving the beach is true too. A friend of mine went to a bca meeting recently and was told that the city is in fact paving over a sand dune zone to build a parking lot. The beauty of that deal is that those new condos are going to overlook a parking lot and dumpster. Just another classic Kearney,Eason,O'Neil disaster another waterfront parking area. I think those boys have been around a little too long and its time to send that brain trust packing. So watch out Manfred the Earth band is going to strike back!
Webmaster Thursday, 8/24/06, 10:40 AM
Manfred Perkins name calling will not be allowed on this website. Your entries will be deleted.
Manfred Perkins Thursday, 8/24/06, 9:58 AM
Tony, you ignorant twit. Yes everyone has the right to be heard on this issue. But that doesn¿t mean anyone needs to pay attention to your foolish nonsense especially your fallacious claim that I am some kind of developer. Your rant sounds just like some of the other plebeian buffoons like Glen, Sandra and Lewis. No Condos, No Condos, No Condos. Oh my they're ugly and they're putting them up everywhere and, oh my we won't be able to go to the beach anymore and, oh my the city is going to pave the beach and put up high rises, oh my all of the developers are going to come in and steal our land. I'm sure you are not an architect or planner, what makes you think that you have any worthy ideas. You sound like the kind of person that would want to hang velvet Elvis in the Louvre.
Tony Wilson Thursday, 8/24/06, 8:23 AM
I think everyone has the right to be heard on this issue regardless of their opinions. And once they have all been heard the new planners can digest the comments and incorporate them into some type of plan. I think everyone most people have good intentions about the park idea. However, their are those that work for the city that are trying to line their pockets by developing this lovely area into condos. And their are developers like Manfred Perkins that are money driven that have been handing kick backs and doing deals in private down at city hall. We must ban together to weed those bad people out of our government.
Manfred Perkins Thursday, 8/24/06, 7:44 AM
Oh blow it out your backside Glen. The City finally did the right thing by hiring a real professional planner in addition to UDA. The Goons here have made their point, but they will never be satisfied, so why should the City subject their new consultant to the stupidity of a bunch of backward hicks like Sandra and pals.
Glen Thursday, 8/24/06, 7:06 AM
Manfred is the real idiot! He is scared to think outside of the box of the pathetic team Boss Ross. He is scared to see the damage that these short sighted fools will do for future generations. I don't think there should be putt putts in that area but the planner in the City is the same one that put the doggie park on prime waterfront. He is also the one that is going to pave the beach for a parking lot for the fishing pier and the one that was involved in creating a private public beach at the Salt Ponds. He is what all citizens of Tidewater should fear, an evil doer out to harm mother nature.
Manfred Perkins Thursday, 8/24/06, 5:04 AM
RE: Bob Padgetts letter to the editor in today's paper. What input do you morons think you have to give to LaQuatra Bonci? They are professional landscape architects, you all are just professional whiners who's design skills are limited to than that pathetic clip art pile of poop on this site.
Hardy Wednesday, 8/23/06, 11:40 AM
My mentor Boss Ross says that there will be housing on the b-lots period. Therefore you folks just need to live with it and move on. The Boss is a fair man and is willing to give certain concessions to make up for the loss of public space. At this time the Boss is willing to add a bike rack to the public beach at the Salt Ponds, and two new benches on the boardwalk. What a guy!
From: Hampton
Glen Wednesday, 8/23/06, 5:56 AM
Special Ed you are a creep! If they put expensive housing on the b-lots then Amy Hobbs will have to move away because her property taxes will go up so much. Careful what you wish for Mr. E.D.
Special Ed Tuesday, 8/22/06, 4:50 PM
Yeah! high-density, high-cost residential housing on Lots B. yeah! Amy Hobbs and her BCA supporters Yeah! fight against the Green Space stand for Lots B, Yeah! No world-class city park for our now and future generations, Yeah!
Tony Wilson Tuesday, 8/22/06, 11:51 AM
Thanks for your comments Sandra. I just don't understand why everyone in Hampton thinks that women represents all of Buckroe. From what I understand the BCA consists of about 70 people. That seems to be a very small number of citizens in the club, and not worthy of consideration as a majority of Buckroe. Yet when you see her at council meetings she is treated as the final word on all things Buckroe. I wonder if she is related to the Mayor?
Sandra Canepa Monday, 8/21/06, 1:06 PM
Tony, Amy Hobbs is not, and has never been, a Green Space Lady. When the Green Space Ladies came into existence over 18 months ago, Amy Hobbs then was president of the Buckroe Civic Association (BCA), a small civic association which helped support the city's plans for high-density, high-cost residential housing on Lots B. Amy Hobbs and her BCA supporters fought against the Green Space stand for Lots B to become a world-class city park for our now and future generations. Amy Hobbs is no longer president of the BCA and, lately, has not spoken out in public against Lots B becoming a city park. I hope this explanation will clear up some of the matter for you. Thank you.
From: Hampton
Email: sandra@buckroebeach.org
Tony Wilson Monday, 8/21/06, 8:15 AM
Is Amy Hobbs a greenspace girl or is she just the official voice of Buckroe? It seems to me that every time there is an issue in Buckroe that she is the official voice of the entire community. Why is this the case?
From: Hampton
Glen Sunday, 8/20/06, 9:38 AM
Hardy, you must be one of those fortunate ones that are on Boss Ross's hidden payroll. No body else would be dumb enough to be on his team.
Hardy Thursday, 8/17/06, 6:12 AM
Roger, you don't have a clue! I am a devout follower of Boss Ross and his development guru Terry O'Neil. yes that right the same people that gave you a private public beach and not act like they are outraged. Terry will do the same for Buckroe so find another beach somewhere else.
Roger Halls Wednesday, 8/16/06, 6:39 AM
Hardy, what an elitist ugly attitude.....you are either a city employee paid by developers or one of those Salt Pond sick-o's who do not want "riff raff" parking in their neighborhood. Hampton made sure the people displaced in Pine Chapel Village by the Convention Center were placed in housing off of Andrews Boulevard. Displaced Todd's Cottage people and those from the trailer park should have been given the same consideration.
From: Hampton
Hardy Wednesday, 8/16/06, 4:44 AM
Yes Lewis it would be a terrible thing to have all of the blight that Nags Head has to offer. Perhaps as we clean up our area we can send you some of the displaced Todd's Cottage people and some of the trailers that will soon be leaving. I'm sure after a short time you will be wishing for your own greedy developers.
Lewis Hudgins Tuesday, 8/15/06, 8:57 PM
I spent all of my youth and teen summers at Buckroe both working in the park and staying with relatives who owned 4 cottages across from the merrygoround..I would hate to see it become a Condo haven..take a lesson from the outer banks .save your beach and create a family setting..dont let greedy builders do to your beach as they have down here!!!! Lewis Hudgins NNHS class of 1950 KillDevilHills,NC
From: born in NN/Outerbanks,Nc now
Web Site: meemawandpoppopsfamily website
Email: lewjo.obxnc@yahoo.com
Glen Tuesday, 8/15/06, 8:05 AM
Tony I agree with you. We need a new city planner that has a clue.
Tony wilson Monday, 8/14/06, 5:36 AM
I went to Buckroe park yesterday for the first time since the new road and parking was installed. I must say that the idea was good but whoever designed those narrow roads and parallel parking should be terminated. I witnessed several near accidents between vehicles. i also saw two children nearly struck when they exited their parents car. That place is just a mess on a busy day, and we should go ahead and redesign the thing now before the city is sued. We should also start a search for a new city planner. The current one is incompetent.
From: Hampton
kimmey Wednesday, 8/9/06, 5:27 AM
can someone tell me why this dumb city needs to waste our money to hire some high paid consultant to tell us what we already know we want no condos . thegreen space ladies havea great plan already right her. why cant the city just use this plan and get the jaill inmates to build it like they do in newport news
Ron Pratt Wednesday, 8/9/06, 4:38 AM
What if the new park designer and professional consultants still advise placing houses and buisnesses on the B-lots? will the gsl's still have a say?
From: Hampton
Bill Moore Wednesday, 8/9/06, 4:32 AM
The news in today's paper that Hampton has hired LaQuatra Bonci, a Pittsburgh-based firm that specializes in designing parks, for revamping Buckroe Beach is terrific. Congratulations Green Space Gals!!
From: Hampton
Louis F. Tuesday, 8/8/06, 8:08 AM
I didn't know that the boss used delphi tactics on the employees. I guess he does it because it is so effective on the citizens of Hampton. If he goes around talking about his 4-3 margin I wonder how those council members that are part of his majority feel about the fact that they no longer have a vote. I guess they are forced to go along with him without expressing any ideas of their own. I wonder why they ran for office in the first place?
Hardy Tuesday, 8/8/06, 6:55 AM
Leon I disagree! Ross is a good old boy, and is on the inside of many deals. He knows how the real world works and as mayor he has personally eliminated the need for a city manager. For years we thought that council was a policy making board but Ross proved us all wrong. His micro-management of the staff has shown us that the mayor is actually the one running the city. We can now potentially eliminate the manager and deputy managers and just let Ross do it all by himself. He is after all an expert on just about everything, and have you noticed the suave manner in which he handles the staff in public? He thinks that they are students in a classroom so he just belittles them and puts them in their place. That way they all know who the big man is, and they will never challenge his power. Kind of like a negative re- enforcement style approach that has proven very effective for the little fella.
Leon Trotsky Tuesday, 8/8/06, 5:23 AM
Glen, this is not Branch Davidian stuff. This is about a 4-3 dictatorship. Boss Ross is the self annointed leader of Hampton for two more years. The issues go much deeper than the b-lots. This is happening everywhere in the city and he has proved himself a failure that we will all have to pay for many years to come. He lacks the vision, skills, and experience to handle the job. He has spent a career as a government employee and is incapable of understanding how the real world operates. His decisions on many key issues such as the b-lots are based on personal choice not on expertise. that is why the city is so divided and it is getting worse each day. While many of his intentions may be good he is just the wrong man for the job. Many of us were fooled by his years of experience on council and thought that he might be the solution to many of Hampton's problems. Unfortunately we quickly learned that he was actually part of the mess.
Glen Monday, 8/7/06, 5:59 AM
I don't know what all that talk is about, but I always figured the Boss had some sort of Branch Davidian thing going on in Hampton.
Leon Trotsky Sunday, 8/6/06, 7:34 AM
Hardy, I agree! Let our high priest decide how to best use public space. We are all just servants and we should faithfully follow the directions of the chosen one. If we listen Ross will guide us with his wisdom and will instruct us all on how to live in harmony. He has promised to continue his fight for higher paying jobs for us all by supporting an increase in the minimum wage. What an economic boom that would be.
Hardy Sunday, 8/6/06, 6:00 AM
I think we should leave the development of the b- lots up to my friend Ross. He has demonstrated that his leadership is capable of doing the right thing in the past and I am more than confident that he will continue on the same path in the future. Under his guidance his own town of Phoebus has flourished and is now a showplace for all of Tidewater. He has fostered the establishment of local business such as pawn shops that have consistently brought the right kind of visitors to Hampton. These tourist come not only to sell, but also to buy. In fact, you can see the commerce taking place street side on any given night. This economic boom is also being felt by businesses such as the Golden sands and the makers of several types of double deuce beers. if you like what you see going on in Phoebus then you will love what ross is going to do with Buckroe!
waldo Saturday, 8/5/06, 2:25 PM
Forget a park. I want a Wallmart and a Burger King on the B-lots
Glen Saturday, 8/5/06, 12:01 PM
Jody that is the best idea I've heard yet for the b- lots! I can just see Terry O'Neil walking around with one of those big lollipops that the spoiled rotten rich kids used to get.
Jody s Saturday, 8/5/06, 11:05 AM
I think that since everyone wants the beach area to remain like old times then you all should move your city hall building to the b-lots. Then you would have your amusement park back in the same old spot. Can you imagine council meetings live from the carousel?
From: Maryland
Leon Trotsky Saturday, 8/5/06, 10:29 AM
Manfred, obviously you are a filthy imperialistic pig if you can afford to stay at a ritzy hotel like that. Because of that fact you are immediately ordered to send all of your material wealth to city hall for redistribution. Please send it c/o The Boss Ross retirement fund. Furthermore, you are ordered to purge your mind of any thoughts involving parks or anything green. You are to focus on gray condos and pavement and fences protecting my beach from the riff raff.
Manfred Perkins Friday, 8/4/06, 1:00 PM
No Glen, But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Glen Friday, 8/4/06, 12:11 PM
Manfred are you really Terry O'Neil in disguise?
Manfred Perkins Friday, 8/4/06, 11:03 AM
Sandra, do you really know its sad how our City looks to those outside? I have people come up to me all the time and say "how can you live in Hampton"? You have a bunch of idiots running the City, especially that podunk mayor. You have a bunch of crime and grime, and then the City tries to clean up Buckroe beach and a bunch of looney old ladies start screaming about saving the green space and holding everything up. The biggest mistake our council has made so far was to give you backward hicks credence. If they were the least bit competent they would have and should have shut you down from the get go. Now you are running around acting like everyone who signed your petition has given you the authority to speak for them. Funny, I dont remember seeing that on the petition. Most of those people probably just don't want condos on the beach (east of First Street) I don't either, however there was no plan to do so in the first place. Council disgusts me, but you are far further down on my list because you are only pushing your own agenda. It's not because you really want a so called word class park, it's what you dont want, and that is educated people with money settling in your traditionally working class neighborhood, too bad. Its much bigger than you or the City. God is not making any more waterfront property and people want to live near it. Those with more money will live closer than those with less. That's inevitable.
From: malo beach
Leon Trotsky Friday, 8/4/06, 9:50 AM
You people in Hampton are not capable of making decisions. Your leaders were chosen for a reason and they are now fully in control of all facets of your everyday life. Democaracy is not a fair way to choose plans for public areas. Decisions like that must be made by the high command in City Hall. They will take your input and perhaps plant a tree in a certain area or put a trash can in a requested spot. That way you will know that your voice is being heard and the charrettes were a success. By the way the only stakeholders in the game are the Hamptons commandant and planning czar. They will be holding stakes before they place them in the ground for the condo construction.
Josh Finklestine Friday, 8/4/06, 9:47 AM
Linda, What kind of drugs are you on? I have yet to see one post from you that makes sense in its entirety.
Linda Friday, 8/4/06, 8:53 AM
Louis, I agree with you, I think that the plan for the 3 "B" blocks needs to be looked at and I think it needs to be done right by the parks planner that Sandra has talked about instead of one of the many developers that this city seems to have no problem in giving all our land to. The public also has the right to a voice in all of this planning as well, seeing as how we are the ones who are utilizing the beach at Buckroe. As for the beach at Salt Ponds, the public should have a right to go there as well, especially if they are down at the restaurant there in Grandview. The Salt Ponds folks needs to realize that we here in Buckroe, are not riff raff. I realize that they do not want a bad element in their neighborhood, and I can appreciate their feelings on that. I don't want to see that over here where I live either. We all want to live in a nice neighborhood, but if we live here, then we have the right to have access to our beaches. But like you said, for this all to be done right, the public, or more of the public needs to stand up and be heard on this.
From: Buckroe
Glen Thursday, 8/3/06, 9:01 AM
Sandra, I just don't think you can look at any part of the beachfront without looking at the whole thing. It is a small beach and if it were all tied together the overall park would be better for everyone. I'm not so concerned about the pier as I am the restaurant. It seems to me that you all have been fighting for more amenities in the b-lots. Well there is going to be one restaurant built in the area, and it is going to be located in the most inconvenient spot for all of your tourists and citizens to get to. It just seems stupid like the parking situation and the b-lots themselves. Kind of like the people in charge are not thinking the project through, but rather just giving us knee jerk reaction that will not stand the test of time. Sadly, we will all be stuck with the mess a la the first street parking disaster. It makes you wonder if any of these p[eople like Terry O'Neil actually go to Buckroe. I doubt you would catch him driving through that nightmare that he personally created.
Sandra Canepa Thursday, 8/3/06, 7:29 AM
Glen, I hope you are using the e-mail address link to Council (found on the homepage of this website) to express your views outlined below. You say the pier "needs to be figured into the equation" -- but as stated, and as outlined on this website, the Green Space Ladies and the petition only deal with the Bay Front Initiative under the Buckroe Master Plan and, as sad as it has to be, the Buckroe Pier is not part of our issue and has never been part of the equation. Please take up your issue with Council just as Hands on Hampton is dealing with the Downtown Master Plan, and people in Wythe dealt with the Kecoughtan Corridor Master Plan....and, again, although we supported and sympathsized with them and attended some of their meetings, we could not become part of their speaking voice because our issue and our energies had/has to remain focused on the Bay Front Initiative. I am sorry you feel otherwise but that is the way it has to be for us and the Bay Front Initiative. If we got involved in every "big picture" Hampton project then we would be using unneccesasry energy and valuable time trying to put out a lot of little brush fires which would not help us, our issue, or anyone else in the long run. Glen, just as we started two years ago fighting for what was right for the Bay Front Initiative, please feel free to start your own fight regarding the Buckroe Pier. I am sure you will soon gather many supporters. Plese know, however, you will have to have enough passion about your issue to put your life on hold for a long time as you stay involved and focused.....but that is not all bad. We have met thousands of wonderful Hampton residents, business owners, tourists and visitors who support us 100%, and each time they write, stop us on the street or in restaurants, talk to us, phone, visit the website, etc., they continue to show us that our efforts are more than worthwhile and appreciated. However, thank you again for your opinion. Sandra
From: Hampton
Email: sandra@buckroebeach.org
Glen Thursday, 8/3/06, 4:58 AM
I just think that the pier is part of the park that you propose and it needs to be considered by the planners looking into designs. Since its presence will have such a major influence on the beachfront the pier needs to be figured into the equation. As one of the 12,000 people on your list I must sat that I am disappointed that you are not focused on the big picture of Buckroe park. If Buckroe is to become a world class park it is going to take people that think more globally, or it will just end up as Terry O'neil has suggested in the master plan.
Sandra Canepa Wednesday, 8/2/06, 6:26 PM
Glen, as much as we Green Space Ladies would like to become more actively involved in other important, sensitive issues here in Hampton, we decided a long time ago we must stay focused on the Bay Front Initiative under the Buckroe Master Plan. For us to do anything less would be to dilute our attention, our watch, and our energy away from our actions regarding the Bay Front Initiative (including Lots B). That would be most unfair to 12,000 petitioners as well as anyone else wanting Lots B designated and designed into a world- class city park. The Buckroe Fishing Pier and its immediate surroundings concern another initiative under the Buckroe Master Plan, and although I do not agree with what I am hearing at times about what is going on in not only that area but other areas in Hampton as well, there just are not enough hours in the day for us to get involved in them becuase our watch and actions with City leadership regarding the Bay Front Initiative keep us jumping as is. Thank you for asking so I could clear that up, and I hope you and others out there approach City leadership for answers to questions such as you pose.
From: Hampton
Email: sandra@buckroebeach.org
Glen Wednesday, 8/2/06, 3:02 PM
Sandra, I don't understand something. You all are concerned about keeping the b-lots green, and I agree with that, but how can you stand by and not say anything about the City paving the beach for a parking lot at the pier? Maybe it is just me but I cannot imagine anyone being stupid enough to pave a beach. This is like a modern downtown parking garage.
Crystal Wednesday, 8/2/06, 11:09 AM
Why don't they build the nightclub on the beach at the Salt Ponds? That way the public would at least get to use their beachfront.
Louis F. Tuesday, 8/1/06, 8:52 AM
Linda I have no idea about what you are talking about in your last post. I never said that you were bickering with anyone. And as for the rest of your comments it is obvious that you either did not read or could not understand my post. So I will say one more time that I think the entire plan needs to be revisited. And it needs to be done honestly this time. We do not need another dishonest attempt by the city planner to build his idea of a quaint sea side village. He already has that in the Salt Ponds where he lives and won't allow us riff raff to visit.
Linda Tuesday, 8/1/06, 8:06 AM
Well Louis, I am not bickering with anyone about anything, and no I am not a democrat either. Geez I get really sick of all you people who are for the building of condos. All you seem to see are dollar signs, you don't seem to realize that building condos on the 3 "B" blocks is going to increase property value, in turn increasing everyones real estate taxes, and quite frankly I think we are being taxed enough now as it is. Do you think we will have access to the beach if condos go up, NO we won't. Access will be cut off. Look at the folks over in Salt Ponds, they did not want parking put over there, because the folks said that it would bring a bad element, they don't want anyone having access to the beach over there either, so why is this any different? Why is it so hard to you people to understand that there are those of us who want that land to stay like it is, public land, a public beach. We all have a right to say no to all this useless development of public land. Let the city foot the bill for all of this instead of the taxpayers having to pay for it.
From: Buckroe
Louis F. Monday, 7/31/06, 8:03 AM
Sandra, thanks for the response. I think you are right there needs to be a plan that is drawn up in front of the public. Not something designed by City staff on the top floor of city hall. I just think that they should at least attempt to be honest this time around. Buckroe needs some direction, not just some quick fix that will not stand the test of time. Housing is probably a good use for some of the property, but the park itself needs to be well thought out. Thats why I think the pier could be the synergy for the whole park. Why do we need an observation pier? That location is pefect for a restaurant and retail and maybe a coffee shop. I think if the city has to fork out all kinds of money to put the old pier back we should at least put it in the right spot. That location is accessible from all over the beach. The other spot is too much of a walk for most families to go for refreshments. Thats why I think the whole plan should be re-visited before they get started on the fishing pier.
Sandra Canepa Monday, 7/31/06, 7:43 AM
Louis, Hampton's hired consulting team just completed a week of listening to public comments and input before the team came up with three options regarding the reuse of Fort Monroe should Hampton get it. We three Green Space Ladies have requested Council give us the same respect and courtesy when the hired professional park consultants start working on options for the Bay Front Initiative. In other words, the public needs to be assured someone is looking out for their interests. 12,000 Hampton residents signed a petition to have Lots B designated and designed into a city park for our now and future generations......and Council and the Green Space Ladies must ensure that is happening and all options being worked on are viewed (just as the public viewed all options for Fort Monroe) even BEFORE any three options are chosen for more detailed analysis and design. That is all I can tell you at this point, and you know as much as we do right now. I go agree all of the publicly- owned waterfront and near waterfront land in Buckroe needs a solid, publicly-approved park plan and not just a plan for high-density, high-cost private homes as wanted by the city's planning and economic development departments.
From: Hampton
Email: sandra@buckroebeach.org
Louis F. Monday, 7/31/06, 6:38 AM
Since the pier is not going to be built anytime soon I think Glen's idea of moving it to the center of the park would be great. I think we should suggest that the park planning people take a look at all of the public waterfront in Buckroe and coordinate a solid plan. What do you think Sandra?
Glen Monday, 7/31/06, 6:34 AM
Anne, the City has totally destroyed the entire pier project. This has been a monumental failure. I watched on city council last week as some attorney for the city outlined where the project stood, and as best as I can make out it is now farther away from completion than when they started. Apparently, all the permits expired and there was a bunch of work done without permits that caused the site to be shut down. I also heard that there is a bunch of people in Buckroe that are very mad because the City wants to put a nightclub on the pier like the one in Ocean View. I hope not because that place is NASTY!
Anne C. Sunday, 7/30/06, 9:50 AM
What is going on with the Buckroe Beach fishing pier? I am told it is going to be up and running before the end of 2006?? Can someone tell me more about this acopestick@aol.com
From: Buckroe Beach native....
Email: acopestick@aol.com
Glen Saturday, 7/29/06, 3:30 PM
Sandra, Thank you for the update. I hope that you can convince council to stop all activity at Buckroe until the planners are consulted. I think that we have a real chance to make something special out of Buckroe and that we should take our time and do it right. There should be foodservice and maybe retail available in the center of the park for people at the beach. Personally I think that they should use the old pier one site for the fishing pier and restaurant/retail area. That way it would be right in the center of the beach, and easy for everyone on both sides of the beach to access. There are many other things that could take place there as well and it is good news to hear that someone down at city hall is listening.
